Ken McNabb Senior Account Executive at Commercial Loan Corporation
Congratulations to Kenneth McNabb on his recent promotion to Trust & Estate Senior Account Manager. Ken is one of our top Trust & Estate loan professionals and assists both clients and Attorneys with loans to Irrevocable Trusts and Probate Estates. Our loans help clients take advantage of the California Proposition 58 Parent to Child Transfer. The Prop 58 Parent to Child Transfer allows a parent to transfer real estate and the associated low Prop 13 protected property tax base to a child. By doing so the child who is inheriting to property saves on average over $6,000 a year in property taxes.
If you, or a client of yours is in need of a loan to an irrevocable trust to equalize a trust distribution, Ken can provide you with a free cost benefit analysis. The free cost benefit analysis details exactly how much you could save by taking advantage of your California Prop 58 parent to child transfer benefit. Unlike a traditional lender, Commercial Loan Corporation is able to lend directly to an Irrevocable Trust with no personal guarantee from the acquiring beneficiary, meeting that California Board of Equalization requirement to qualify for Proposition 58.
For immediate assistance, please call us at (877)464-1066.
We sat in with noted Proposition 58, trust loan expert – Tanis Alonso, at Commercial Loan Corporation in Southern California. Tanis has a uniquely profound, global understanding of the entire trust loan process; and applies a very human, not simply financial, viewpoint to the process ~ as does the entire team at the cloanc.com organization; with a strong, genuine focus on “helping people” not simply implementing financial transactions…
Property Tax Transfer: Thank you so much for agreeing to chat with us about Proposition 58 and trust loans today…
Tanis Alonso: Of course. It’s my pleasure.
Property Tax Transfer: Great. Tanis, can we take a close look at how the basic trust loan process works in California, from your perspective, as a lender – and from the point of view of your average everyday beneficiary, many who need to keep parents property taxes… Some who want to sell a property they are inheriting from their parents – and of course the other beneficiaries to a trust or estate that are determined to keep that home, and fight that sale. But first, who is your typical caller? Who in the estate or trust scenario tends to reach out to you first?
Tanis Alonso: Basically, whomever is trying to not sell the inherited property – is generally the initial caller to my office. It might be the trustee, frequently at odds with certain beneficiaries… Or very often it’s a family member, one of the beneficiary’s to the trust that doesn’t want to sell that home.
Property Tax Transfer: Got it. So, what does an average Proposition 58 property transfer and trust loan scenario in California look like, contributing to peace of mind for property owners? There must be similar scenarios, that reflect average trust or estate outcomes all across the state.
Tanis: Absolutely. One of the most common scenarios we see, here at Commercial Loan Corp., are elderly parents, for example… who, sadly, pass away, leaving loved ones behind. So, let’s say there is an estate, or perhaps a trust, and there are three beneficiaries involved… And property is the only asset… Let’s say there are no cash accounts. And this is not uncommon these days.
Property Tax Transfer: Yes, we hear that it’s quite common to see a trust inheritance, or probate estate, where there is very little cash left at the end of the road…
Tanis: Exactly. Parents who pass away in their nineties let’s say, who basically have spent most of their cash assets that were in savings, or in stocks and bonds, and by the time they get into their mid or late nineties, those assets are mostly gone, cashed out or spent –
Property Tax Transfer: OK. So there isn’t much money left in many inheritances… So what do beneficiaries do? When do these conflicts we hear so much about begin, when a house is being inherited by several beneficiaries… some who wish to sell, and some who prefer to keep the property, and to keep parents property taxes?
Tanis: Well, here is a typical middle class inherited real estate scenario – let’s say, for example, there are three beneficiaries and no other assets being inherited except an older home. One beneficiary wants to keep the house, to keep parents property taxes; while the other two siblings prefer to get cash from an immediate house sale, probably through a nearby realtor. But – instead of selling to a buyer, here is where Proposition 58 and a trust loan comes into play, providing liquidity and compliance with the Proposition 58 tax system – furnishing the two siblings who prefer to sell, with enough cash liquidity as if they had sold their shares in the inherited property to a buyer…
Property Tax Transfer: So why not sell? Why the trust loan?
Tanis: Because with a loan to a trust there is the upside of less expense. Frequently, we’re talking about ten times less of an expense than would normally be involved in a house sale. Again, a process compensating beneficiaries through a trust loan, instead of a house sale or coming up with the cash yourself… versus a formal house sale through a realtor that would cost approximately ten times the amount to process the entire scenario, a house sale, with realtor commission and fees, taxes, ancillary costs, etc…
Property Tax Transfer: Paying off the beneficiaries who wanted the cash from a house sale in the first place, right?
Tanis (Commercial Loan Corporation): Exactly. And so the rest of the trust loan goes to pay for 100% of parents Proposition 13 tax base – and the Proposition 58 tax system makes it possible to transfer the property to the beneficiary or beneficiaries that did not want to sell – to keep parents property taxes at the low Proposition 13 tax rate – or involving Proposition 193 if it is real property, not left by the parents, but by grandparents.
Property Tax Transfer: You say ten times less on expenses versus paying for it yourself?
Tanis Alonso: Absolutely. It costs the families we help far less to get a trust loan from us, believe it or not, then it does if they were to dig into their own savings to complete the Proposition 58 property transfer process.
Property Tax Transfer: How does that translate in terms of real numbers?
Tanis Alonso: Let’s say a property value is currently one million dollars and the current tax base is $1,200. If they were to get reassessed at current value that would be around $11,000 annually. By someone keeping the property and obtaining a trust loan to properly buy out their siblings that allows the beneficiary that is keeping the property to keep parents property taxes, to retain 100% of the Proposition 13 tax base that was paid by their parents and keep that low property tax base of $1,200. This of course creates much greater affordability than if they were to improperly buy out their siblings and have that property reassessed. The loan to trust goes hand in hand with the Proposition 58 property tax transfer system, creating enough liquidity to equalize distributions, not sell, and allow a beneficiary to keep their parents property with their low property tax base.
Property Tax Transfer: It sounds counter intuitive, doesn’t it. Tanis Alonso: I know, it does sound counter intuitive – yet it’s true. All you have to do is run the numbers yourself, and you’ll see what I’m talking about. It’s a better way to be able to keep an inherited house in the family, and to keep parents property taxes, when there is a dispute going on that pits the beneficiary who wants to keep a house against the beneficiaries that want to sell that home. A home that a family has so many memories associated with; with such strong emotional attachments to. There are so many wonderful family memories that are attached to each home. And every home is unique and different in that sense, just as every family member is different and unique.
Property Tax Transfer: You mean emotional memories you can’t replace with cash, in fact you can’t buy for any amount of money.
Tanis Alonso: That’s right. Anyway, this process allows families to keep that home in the family. And that’s the most important point!
Property Tax Transfer: It is the crucial point.
Tanis Alonso: Absolutely. And as a person on the front lines for this firm, neither I or Commercial Loan Corp. view each trust loan scenario as simply a “financial transaction”. Nor do we see the home they’ve lived in for decades as just a “piece of real property”. To us, this a “piece of family history” in the making. And the process a family decision, not a “transaction”. We see our clients as real families that we’re helping, financially and emotionally, not just as clients signing a contract for a trust loan. For us it’s much more than that.
Property Tax Transfer: It’s very obvious that you really enjoy helping people… getting them money when they really need it – and saving them on the cost side in the bargain, with trust loans.
Tanis Alonso: Correct. We see them as real people that we’re able to help in a time of need. For us it’s so much more than cash and property – we don’t view it that way. We’re talking about family history here. Not just “another deal”.
Property Tax Transfer: Tanis, let me ask you… Beneficiaries that call your company, desperate to keep parents property taxes; for any solution to their property transfer / Proposition 58 issue – is it a safe bet to assume that 99% of the time there are elements that come up again and again?
Tanis: Well, that’s true, to a point. With beneficiaries that call us, with a trust or estate situation, there is always real property being inherited, going to one or several beneficiaries… and little, if any, cash – and each family always has different dynamics. There are always differences, as regards the people and details involved. But, the one constant you can be sure of is that there is always someone who wants to sell… and always someone who wants to keep the property they are inheriting… dead set against selling.
Property Tax Transfer: And at the end of the tunnel, is it safe to assume that with your company it’s generally a win-win equation, for everyone involved. Everyone involved, more or less, get what they want, right?
Tanis Alonso (Commercial Loan Corporation): That’s right. 99% of the time. The beneficiary, or beneficiaries, that want cash from the sale of the property that they’re inheriting, get the cash they were looking for, from the trust loan…
Property Tax Transfer: And the beneficiary or beneficiaries that want to keep the house, get to keep that house, and keep parents property taxes…
Tanis: Yes! And let me say that, typically, this is a really, really big win for them – as the siblings that wanted to sell are usually very vocal, and very aggressive about their desire to do so! That beneficiary that wants to keep that property, that is also able to get the other siblings a large amount of cash for their shares in the inherited real estate – while still being able to keep the home they’re so attached to, and keep parents property taxes; keeping parents property tax rate. This would be practically impossible, were it not for our trust loan. And there’s your win-win equation!
Property Tax Transfer: And what about the cost factor? Costs involved in the equation… How does everyone benefit on that level, getting cash to the beneficiaries that wanted cash from a house sale? Versus coming up with property buyout cash themselves…
Tanis Alonso (Commercial Loan Corporation): OK, so cost involved, selling versus keeping inherited property. I’ll try to keep the equation simple. Costs associated with this property funding process through a trust loan, paying for everything, including beneficiary property shares buyout, taxes, etc. is, on average, 3.5% – So by someone keeping the family property everyone will receive more money than if they were to sell the property at approximately 6.5% in costs. The average trust receives $45,716 more to distribute than if they were to sell the property to some random buyer. Each beneficiary on average is receiving $16,652 more by someone keeping the property, instead of selling it. And our average annual tax savings is $6,043. We have already saved a combined amount just shy of 1 million dollars for our clients on property taxes. That is a significant benefit for all beneficiaries when someone keeps the property instead of selling it!
PropertyTax Transfer: So you’re saying those savings would have been completely lost, per beneficiary, if they had sold out to a regular buyer…
Tanis Alonso (Commercial Loan Corporation): That’s right. For example, say it’s you and your sister. A major conflict. You want to keep the house you’re all inheriting from your parents, plus keep parents property taxes. Why should I let my sister sell? The solution there is because you are going to get more cash in your hands than if you were to sell the property! That’s the bottom line. A trust loan transaction takes 7-10 business days whereas selling will take a few months. Everyone receives more money, more rapidly, then if they were to sell the property on the open market. Everyone benefits from this… it’s win-win all the way around.
PropertyTaxTransfer: So you let your sister sell, so everyone wins – is what you’re saying.
Tanis: Of course! Let her sell, let her get her way – and you end up getting your way… you get what you wanted, to keep your house with everyone paid off and happy. No more conflict. On a $500,000 property – do you want to spend 6.5% to sell that property, with a realtor, or 3.5% through our trust loan, in keeping with the Proposition 58 tax system? Which number would you want to give away, 6.5% or 3.5%?
PropertyTax Transfer: Naturally. So the long range picture looks like increases in taxes as well, so that’s not as affordable either.
Tanis: Absolutely right. In certain cases a property tax reassessment can add an extra $700 to $1000 per month to your property taxes. That’s an extra $1,000 per month – not per year! Month after month. That is affordability vs not affordability to many.
Property Tax Transfer: Going through the Proposition 58 tax system, with the trust loan paying everyone off… What would property taxes look like going down that road?
Tanis: OK so the question is, “why do I need a trust loan to buy out beneficiaries who want to sell our inherited house?” The answer is you can still keep the house you’re inheriting, and not spend any of your own money in the process. The importance of the trust loan is that you can buy out your siblings and still keep parents property taxes. You keep 100% of the low Proposition 13 property tax base that was originally paid by your parents. If you were to use your own money to buy out your siblings, the State Board of Equalization would see that as a sibling buying out a sibling – and that would definitely trigger a property tax reassessment. Naturally, the result of that would be higher taxes. So you need the trust loan to buy out your siblings in order to take advantage of Proposition 58, and keep the low property tax base.
Property Tax Transfer: Most people don’t have that kind of cash on hand nor do they want to use all of their cash for this just to buy out beneficiaries in an estate setting. Especially if the numbers go higher…
Tanis Alonso (Commercial Loan Corporation): Beneficiaries who want to keep their inherited property still put a lot more money in their pocket, still save a lot more, by not using their own funds… by buying out beneficiaries that want to sell by going the trust loan route. Staying within the discounted Proposition 13 tax base, being able to keep parents property taxes … taking advantage of the Proposition 58 property tax system, or tax shelter. Using this tax shelter that we looked at before, if you recall – would be around $1,200 per year on a million dollar property. Saving thousands of dollars annually on property taxes by taking advantage of Proposition 58; keeping their parents low property tax base.
Property Tax Transfer: Yes, the difference in the numbers are stunning.
Tanis Alonso (Commercial Loan Corporation): Yes it is. So if you use your own money to buy out your siblings you will trigger a reassessment… if that was reassessed normally, without doing the property transfer and beneficiary payoff with our trust loan – you’d be looking at an $11,000 tax hit per year on the same million dollar property! If reassessed at the current, present day, base rate – that tax hit goes up 10 times. A significant difference in cash back in your pocket after it’s all done and said. Trust loans are a huge benefit for all of these families and that’s how we’re able to really help people in a significant way.
Tanis Alonso: Absolutely. And helping people in this way is what it’s all about! That entire viewpoint is the basis for this whole company, from the top down – starting with the CEO, who is a truly terrific guy, who genuinely loves helping people, with money, memories, and time. And you can’t replace memories and time!
Property Tax Transfer: You can’t replace memories and time… Very well put! That is a concept to remember.
Tanis Alonso: It is so important to remember, when you truly care about what happens to the people you’re helping.
Property Tax Transfer: Very true. Your clients are lucky to have you folks working for them. Thanks so much for speaking with us today.
Tanis Alonso: Thank you. It was a great pleasure chatting with you.
If you have questions about a loan for an Irrevocable Trust, or about California Proposition 58, please call Tanis at 877-464-1066.
When it comes time to distribute the assets of an irrevocable trust, a trust loan may be needed if an equal distribution is required or desired. A trust loan provides the trust with liquidity; supplying cash so that assets do not need to be sold off or converted to cash. The trust loan is a mortgage placed against a piece of real estate held in the trust. Unlike a traditional mortgage, a trust mortgage loan is typically a short term loan. Once the assets of the trust are distributed, the beneficiary who inherited the real estate with the trust mortgage placed on it would refinance the trust mortgage with a conventional mortgage or payoff the mortgage.
Why Is An Equal Distribution Important?
When it comes to a trust distribution, an equal distribution can be important for a variety of reasons. Often times there is language in the trust that requires an equal distribution of the assets in the trust be made to beneficiaries. If the trust only contained cash, it would be easy to accomplish this. Unfortunately, most trusts that contain real estate do not have cash or other assets sufficient to create an equal distribution. In this situation, either the real estate must be sold or a mortgage must be taken out on the real estate to infuse the trust with cash. A trust loan is almost always the least expensive of the two options. Sometimes, more importantly, it also allows a beneficiary to keep a family home in the family.
Another important reason for the equal distribution of a trust is to meet the requirements of California Proposition 58. Prop 58 allows a child who is inheriting a home from a parent to avoid property tax reassessment on that home. This passes the low proposition 13 protected tax base from a parent to a child. Often times when the home is held in a trust, an equal distribution is required if a Proposition 58 exclusion from reassessment is to be granted by the County Tax Assessors office. In fact, the majority of trust loans that we provide are specifically for this reason. Our clients save on average over six thousand dollars per year in property tax savings by avoiding reassessment.
Do All Lenders Loan To Irrevocable Trusts?
No, in fact very few lenders are willing to lend to a trust, let alone an irrevocable trust. Typically when a home is held in a trust, a conventional lender will require that the property first be removed from the trust before they will lend on it. When a trust is revocable, this may not be an issue since the home can be added back into to trust once the mortgage process has been completed. Once the trust becomes irrevocable, often times the ability to do so is no longer possible and a lender who can lend to Irrevocable Trusts will be required.
When the requirements of Proposition 58 need to be considered, the situation can become even more complicated. Proposition 58 requires that the acquiring beneficiary of the real estate makes no personal guarantee on the trust loan or trust mortgage. Doing so would be perceived as a sibling to sibling transfer of real estate as opposed to a parent to child transfer and would likely jeopardize the exclusion from property reassessment. Commercial Loan Corporation is one of the only lenders in California that provides Irrevocable Trust Loans with no personal guarantee requirements. We work directly with Trust Administrators, Trustees, Beneficiaries, Attorneys and Property Tax Consultants. If you require a Trust & Estate Attorney or Property Tax Consultant to assist you with Proposition 58, we can refer you to an expert to assist you.
Is A Trust Loan Less Expensive Than Selling A Home?
Yes, in almost all cases a trust loan is far less expensive than selling a home. Additionally a trust loan takes less time to complete than it takes to sell a home. We can complete a trust loan in as little as 10 business days. That means beneficiaries can get more money and get their funds more quickly. When you consider the ability to take advantage of the Proposition 58’s exclusion from reassessment, the savings grow even further.
We specialize in loans to Irrevocable Trusts. If you or a client are in need of a trust loan or have questions about loans to an irrevocable trust, please call us at 877-464-1066. We will provide you with a free benefit analysis and answer any question you may have.
If you are attending the USC Trust & Estate Conference on 11/22/2019, please stop by our booth an speak with Tanis Alonso, our Senior Account Executive. She will be on hand to answer any questions you may have on Trust Loans and their role in the Proposition 58 exclusion from property reassessment.
This years USC Trust & Estate Conference has over 500 registrants. The conference is tailored for trust, estate planning, probate and elder law professionals. Attorneys, paralegals, trust officers, accountants, financial institution executives, private professional fiduciaries, wealth management professionals, fiduciary officers, underwriters and insurance advisers will all be on hand.
The Featured Sessions Include:
Annual Update: Recent Developments in Probate and Trust and their Practical Applications
Probate Code §2580, et seq. Whose Judgment Is It Anyway?
To Decant or Not Decant…That is the Question
Mystery in a Mumu: What Makes Your Judge Tick?
Tips and Tricks for Taming Basis
Assessing Capacity on a Sliding Scale: A Look Into Retrospective and Contemporaneous Evaluations
Attorneys and Other Advisors as Counselors: What They Don’t Teach You in Law School
If you are currently working with a client that might benefit from a trust loan, probate loan, estate loan or has questions about lending to an irrevocable trust; please stop by our booth and Tanis can answer any questions you have. You may also call us at 877-464-1066.
Commercial Loan Corporation is a California Private Money Lender that specializes in loans to irrevocable trusts. Due to the complexity and risks associated with lending to trusts, most lenders will not provide this type of finance. Loans to irrevocable trusts is our primary business focus.
If you are a trust administrator and require a trust loan to provide the cash needed for an equal trust distribution, please call us. Our specialized irrevocable trust loans can help provide the liquidity needed to allow for an equal distribution. Our loans can help a beneficiary who is inheriting real estate qualify for a California Prop 58 exclusion from property tax reassessment. Taking advantage of the Proposition 58 property tax reassessment exclusion can save potentially several thousands of dollars a year in property taxes.
If you are interested in receiving a loan for an irrevocable trust or have questions on the trust loan process, please call us at 877-464-1066. We can help you determine if a trust loan is right for your situation and if you may qualify for Proposition 58.